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Old 09-24-2005, 11:05 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Hi everyone,
I am trying to find a way to work with a 12 year old girl who was
afflicted with Meningitis when she was 3 years old. She has a range of
problems normally associated with the disease: Memory loss, poor motor
skills, reduced linguistic development, etc. However she is outstanding
in one area: Video games. She seems to be able to remember everything
connected with the games and is able to manipulate the controls with
ease - usually reaching high levels.
A number of psychologists have worked with her and obtained limited
success in improving her situation.
I have been involved in NLP & Ericksonian hypnosis for 20 years and
have to admit that this has me stumped!
Any help / ideas would be gratefully received.
Thanks in anticipation,

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Old 09-24-2005, 04:39 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Might I suggest checking into Applied Kinesiology or Brain Gym? Also
some of the recent work with "neurogenesis" through movement. A google
search for Applied Kinesiology or Brain Gym will turn up plenty. If I
recall correctly, Ernest Rossi has some information about neurogenesis
through movement on his site:

http://www.ernestrossi.com/

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Old 09-24-2005, 10:49 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Hmmm, I've experienced all these issues, but for me, aside from the result
of the head injury, a lot of the problems was a result of ADD, and I have
experienced a couple video games that stopped me cold from the start because
they required dexterity that is about ten times more dexterity than I have.
I could not get through even the first 60 seconds on one game, and I could
not finish the second level of the other game.

The reason I mention this is that it seems that in general neurological
difficulties stemming from brain damage don't just go away just because the
patient is engaged in a task that is of interest to them. Are you sure this
girl is suffering memory difficulties because of meningitis instead of
something else like ADD? Games that require a certain amount of dexterity
for me, make things worse. Two games, Out of this world and Blood proved
absolutely impossible for me to play because they required far more
dexterity than I had and the frustration made it dramatically worse.

Have You ruled out other, more treatable causes for the memory issues and
other things?

As for the memory issue, I used to have a photographic memory, and then I
took a fall, and poof, that was the end of the perfect memory. For the next
20 years, I suffered the tortures of the damned. I would be informed that I
had forgotten something, but my memory would simply refuse to tell me what
it was. No matter how important the information was, no matter how dire the
consequences were of forgetting I would be unable to recall, time and time
again. I would engage in a titanic struggle with my memory only to end up
feeling because the struggle and energy did nothing but serve to scramble my
memory circuits and block the memory from surfacing. I did suspect this, but
I did not know how to access the memory other than a conscious attempt to
fetch the info I wanted. If I failed to recall, the memory immediately, and
allowed this struggle to continue, I would end up with the memory
permanently lost or even corrupted. Example: One time I was trying to
remember what I had done for work on Wednesday and I could not recall it and
I started forcing it and ended up with a memory of working at two places ten
miles apart at the same time on the same day!

One day, some fellow named Tim on essential skills said I was trying to
hard. Ok, I was reminded of the training, I had seen and undergone, to help
with dexterity to use my subconscious mind to raise my hand by concentrating
on the intent to raise the hand, but not initiate the movement consciously
but let the sub-conscious respond and albeit slowly, I could move my hand,
without tremors. This simply involves concentrating and slowly increasing my
focus on raising my hand, but not via a titanic struggle but just increasing
focus. I thought, why not try this with my memory? At the time, the issue
was that I could not remember where I put the scissors. I would even look
right at the scissors but was jamming myself so much that I could not
recognize that I was looking at the scissors! Never once did I ever win this
fight in 38 years until recently.

So, instead of the titanic struggle, I stopped fighting, I cleared my mind
and just focused on the intent to remember where I put the scissors and
slowly increased the focus or pressure of the intent, but not with a big
electrochemical storm struggle. After about a minute I got up, went into the
bedroom and wham! I remembered where I put the scissors. I did this again,
and again, and now, I have enough access to my memory via letting my
subconscious fetch the memory for me instead of wrestling with it
consciously, that I now consider my memory in the normal range.

I don't know if a young 12 year old child can implement this, but there are
no words to describe my empathy for anyone with memory issues, but I am
hoping you will be able to put this info to this young girl in such a way
that she can try it, and possibly discover an alternate route to her memory
as I did.

Good luck with this. Please try this, let me know if it works or not. It
would make my day.

<negotiator@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127559921.124538.135130@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi everyone,
> I am trying to find a way to work with a 12 year old girl who was
> afflicted with Meningitis when she was 3 years old. She has a range of
> problems normally associated with the disease: Memory loss, poor motor
> skills, reduced linguistic development, etc. However she is outstanding
> in one area: Video games. She seems to be able to remember everything
> connected with the games and is able to manipulate the controls with
> ease - usually reaching high levels.
> A number of psychologists have worked with her and obtained limited
> success in improving her situation.
> I have been involved in NLP & Ericksonian hypnosis for 20 years and
> have to admit that this has me stumped!
> Any help / ideas would be gratefully received.
> Thanks in anticipation,
>



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Old 09-25-2005, 02:19 PM   #4 (permalink)
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This sounds like my kind of field - you based in the UK?

Andrew Austin
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<negotiator@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1127559921.124538.135130@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> Hi everyone,
> I am trying to find a way to work with a 12 year old girl who was
> afflicted with Meningitis when she was 3 years old. She has a range of
> problems normally associated with the disease: Memory loss, poor motor
> skills, reduced linguistic development, etc. However she is outstanding
> in one area: Video games. She seems to be able to remember everything
> connected with the games and is able to manipulate the controls with
> ease - usually reaching high levels.
> A number of psychologists have worked with her and obtained limited
> success in improving her situation.
> I have been involved in NLP & Ericksonian hypnosis for 20 years and
> have to admit that this has me stumped!
> Any help / ideas would be gratefully received.
> Thanks in anticipation,
>



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Old 09-26-2005, 07:18 PM   #5 (permalink)
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negotiator@gmail.com wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> I am trying to find a way to work with a 12 year old girl who was
> afflicted with Meningitis when she was 3 years old. She has a range of
> problems normally associated with the disease: Memory loss, poor motor
> skills, reduced linguistic development, etc. However she is outstanding
> in one area: Video games. She seems to be able to remember everything
> connected with the games and is able to manipulate the controls with
> ease - usually reaching high levels.
> A number of psychologists have worked with her and obtained limited
> success in improving her situation.
> I have been involved in NLP & Ericksonian hypnosis for 20 years and
> have to admit that this has me stumped!
> Any help / ideas would be gratefully received.
> Thanks in anticipation,
>

If you are in the UK I could recommend several people who are excellent
in this kind of field, depending upon where you are located.

Regards

Nic
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Old 09-26-2005, 07:54 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I recommend Andrew Austin

Regards

Nick Kemp
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Nic wrote:
> negotiator@gmail.com wrote:
> > Hi everyone,
> > I am trying to find a way to work with a 12 year old girl who was
> > afflicted with Meningitis when she was 3 years old. She has a range of
> > problems normally associated with the disease: Memory loss, poor motor
> > skills, reduced linguistic development, etc. However she is outstanding
> > in one area: Video games. She seems to be able to remember everything
> > connected with the games and is able to manipulate the controls with
> > ease - usually reaching high levels.
> > A number of psychologists have worked with her and obtained limited
> > success in improving her situation.
> > I have been involved in NLP & Ericksonian hypnosis for 20 years and
> > have to admit that this has me stumped!
> > Any help / ideas would be gratefully received.
> > Thanks in anticipation,
> >

> If you are in the UK I could recommend several people who are excellent
> in this kind of field, depending upon where you are located.
>
> Regards
>
> Nic


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Old 09-27-2005, 05:38 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Hi Garry,
I'll make sure to keep you informed. Thanks, Ian

Garry Freemyer ha escrito:

> Hmmm, I've experienced all these issues, but for me, aside from the result
> of the head injury, a lot of the problems was a result of ADD, and I have
> experienced a couple video games that stopped me cold from the start because
> they required dexterity that is about ten times more dexterity than I have.
> I could not get through even the first 60 seconds on one game, and I could
> not finish the second level of the other game.
>
> The reason I mention this is that it seems that in general neurological
> difficulties stemming from brain damage don't just go away just because the
> patient is engaged in a task that is of interest to them. Are you sure this
> girl is suffering memory difficulties because of meningitis instead of
> something else like ADD? Games that require a certain amount of dexterity
> for me, make things worse. Two games, Out of this world and Blood proved
> absolutely impossible for me to play because they required far more
> dexterity than I had and the frustration made it dramatically worse.
>
> Have You ruled out other, more treatable causes for the memory issues and
> other things?
>
> As for the memory issue, I used to have a photographic memory, and then I
> took a fall, and poof, that was the end of the perfect memory. For the next
> 20 years, I suffered the tortures of the damned. I would be informed that I
> had forgotten something, but my memory would simply refuse to tell me what
> it was. No matter how important the information was, no matter how dire the
> consequences were of forgetting I would be unable to recall, time and time
> again. I would engage in a titanic struggle with my memory only to end up
> feeling because the struggle and energy did nothing but serve to scramble my
> memory circuits and block the memory from surfacing. I did suspect this, but
> I did not know how to access the memory other than a conscious attempt to
> fetch the info I wanted. If I failed to recall, the memory immediately, and
> allowed this struggle to continue, I would end up with the memory
> permanently lost or even corrupted. Example: One time I was trying to
> remember what I had done for work on Wednesday and I could not recall it and
> I started forcing it and ended up with a memory of working at two places ten
> miles apart at the same time on the same day!
>
> One day, some fellow named Tim on essential skills said I was trying to
> hard. Ok, I was reminded of the training, I had seen and undergone, to help
> with dexterity to use my subconscious mind to raise my hand by concentrating
> on the intent to raise the hand, but not initiate the movement consciously
> but let the sub-conscious respond and albeit slowly, I could move my hand,
> without tremors. This simply involves concentrating and slowly increasing my
> focus on raising my hand, but not via a titanic struggle but just increasing
> focus. I thought, why not try this with my memory? At the time, the issue
> was that I could not remember where I put the scissors. I would even look
> right at the scissors but was jamming myself so much that I could not
> recognize that I was looking at the scissors! Never once did I ever win this
> fight in 38 years until recently.
>
> So, instead of the titanic struggle, I stopped fighting, I cleared my mind
> and just focused on the intent to remember where I put the scissors and
> slowly increased the focus or pressure of the intent, but not with a big
> electrochemical storm struggle. After about a minute I got up, went into the
> bedroom and wham! I remembered where I put the scissors. I did this again,
> and again, and now, I have enough access to my memory via letting my
> subconscious fetch the memory for me instead of wrestling with it
> consciously, that I now consider my memory in the normal range.
>
> I don't know if a young 12 year old child can implement this, but there are
> no words to describe my empathy for anyone with memory issues, but I am
> hoping you will be able to put this info to this young girl in such a way
> that she can try it, and possibly discover an alternate route to her memory
> as I did.
>
> Good luck with this. Please try this, let me know if it works or not. It
> would make my day.
>
> <negotiator@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1127559921.124538.135130@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> > Hi everyone,
> > I am trying to find a way to work with a 12 year old girl who was
> > afflicted with Meningitis when she was 3 years old. She has a range of
> > problems normally associated with the disease: Memory loss, poor motor
> > skills, reduced linguistic development, etc. However she is outstanding
> > in one area: Video games. She seems to be able to remember everything
> > connected with the games and is able to manipulate the controls with
> > ease - usually reaching high levels.
> > A number of psychologists have worked with her and obtained limited
> > success in improving her situation.
> > I have been involved in NLP & Ericksonian hypnosis for 20 years and
> > have to admit that this has me stumped!
> > Any help / ideas would be gratefully received.
> > Thanks in anticipation,
> >


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Old 09-27-2005, 05:40 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Hi Andrew,
I live and work in Madrid, Spain and the girl is Spanish. Thanks anyway
for taking the time to reply.
Regards,
IAn

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Hi Andrew,
I live and work in Madrid, Spain and the girl is Spanish. Thanks anyway
for taking the time to reply.
Regards,
IAn

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Hi Andrew,
I live and work in Madrid, Spain and the girl is Spanish. Thanks anyway
for taking the time to reply.
Regards,
IAn

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Old 09-27-2005, 05:42 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Hi Nic,
I live & work in Madrid, Sapin and the girl is Spanish. Thanks anyway
for taking the time to reply.
Regards,
Ian

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Thanks, Nick.
Regards,
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