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Old 12-23-2005, 03:42 PM   #1 (permalink)
Ed McClelland
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Default Hypnosis Myth - All Hypnosis Is Self-Hypnosis

HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and Tin Horn hypnotists on a
TOOT, like to push the myth that All Hypnosis Is Self-Hypnosis. Try
telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled vet that uses Animal
Hypnosis to treat House Pets. Humans can be placed in trance out of
conscious awareness (whether they want to or not). Just like animals.
Our old pre-verbal reptilian survival mind knows without knowing when to
roll over and play dead: "When you know you know you know EVERYTHING to
know about HYPNOSIS, you know you know you know NOTHING." -TheShadowNose

Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows forever
beneath it." -Ed McClelland
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Old 12-25-2005, 11:59 AM   #2 (permalink)
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HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and Tin Horn lay hypnotists
on a TOOT, like to push the myth that All Hypnosis Is Self-Hypnosis.
Try telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled vet that uses Animal
Hypnosis to treat House Pets. Humans can be placed in trance out of
conscious awareness (whether they want to or not). Just like animals.
Our old pre-verbal reptilian survival mind knows without knowing when
to roll over and play dead: "When you know you know you know EVERYTHING
to know about HYPNOSIS, you know you know you know NOTHING."
-TheShadowNose
> >

Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows
forever beneath it." -Ed McClelland
HypnoTheraPlay(c)
www.DeepTrance.com
DeepTrance@WebTV.Net

QRM (2X2) Hypnosis Metaphor In Response To 'All Hypnosis Is
Self-Hypnosis' Myth Post:It (The Truth) doesn't really matter. No one
really knows just how and why hypnosis works, only that it does.
>

As am sure you know, the key is to establish _rapport_ with the client
or subject.
>

Will try to bounce an idea off you to see what response I get.
>

Do you know anything about electronics or radio communication? Are you
familiar with the concept of "resonance"?
>

Radio amateurs and C.B. enthusiasts who play with antennas often have a
little device known as a "dip oscillator". Essentially, a very low
powered transmitter covering a very wide range of frequencies.
>

A transmitting antenna should be resonant at the design frequency. If
talking about 27 MHz citizens band, the formula for a quarter wave
ground plane antenna [like a car radio antenna, a vertical whip
working against the ground plane of the car body] would be frequency in
megahertz [megacycles] divided by 75.
>

For a quarter wave vertical, designed for 27 MHz, the theoretical
length [in metres] would be 75/27 or 2.7777 metres, or around 9.11307
feet.
>

Or, for an alternative example, you may have heard how an opera singer
can shatter a wineglass by singing a note at its resonant frequency.
>

So what does this have to do with hypnosis? Well, as you know,
"rapport" is a very hard term to define. Assume we have two hypnotists
of equal skill and experience, "A" and "B". They both try
to hypnotise subject or client "C" to a given depth.
>

One may be far more successful than the other, but with subject or
client "D" the position may be reversed.
>

Sometimes I have had the feeling when trying to establish rapport with
a client or subject that the process might be somewhat akin to
"resonance". That I was sort of "tuning" up or down some sort of a
frequency scale to establish contact with them.
>

Yes, I know this is pure speculation, but am just curious whether any
other clinical hypnotherapists have had similar feelings.
>

I could go into greater detail, of course, but will leave it at this
for an initial inquiry.
>

Cheers, QRM 2X2

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Old 12-28-2005, 02:37 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Hypnosis Myth - All Hypnosis Is Self-Hypnosis

HYPNO-SECRETS OF RAPPORT AND RESONANCE: Whenever any two or more people
come Face-to-Face "IT" becomes a Trance Contest between two dueling
hypnotists to SEE/HEAR/FEEL who is the better hypnotist. In life, there
are dominant Alpha Top Dogs (POLITICIANS & DIs) and Omega Bottom Dogs
always willing to roll over on their backs to show their throats and
play dead in submission (VOTERS & SOLDIERS). The dynamics of these
inter-action/intra-actions are very complex and have nothing to do with
WORDS. People don't say what they mean, or mean what they say. It's
what they DON'T SAY that matters. Hypnotic Rapport (LOVE) is all about
ENERGY IN RESONANCE. We sense, at a primitive reptilian survival level,
both the HEAT and the ENERGY from the other person. HIGH STRESS
physically and mentally unhealthy people feel COLD and UNENERGIZED out
of our conscious awareness. These people live in a state of PRIMAL
FEAR, other than consciously. In any contest between DNA, the BEST DNA
always WINS. Think of two tuning forks cut to the frequency of the OM
sound or the earth's natural vibration. Only one of these tuning forks
has to be struck to cause both of them to vibrate in resonance. The
QUALITY of the RESONANCE depends on how many Rubber Bands are wrapped
around the forks or Crazy Glue stuck on the them. The LESS STRESS a
person has, the more HEAT and ENERGY (LIGHT) they output. And the
hypnotist (or Martial Artist) with the LEAST STRESS always WINS. LOVE
is a LOW STRESS STATE. A good place to move to and raise a family...
Peace On Earth
LOVE-Deep*Trance
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Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows
forever beneath it." -Ed McClelland
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www.HypnoTheraPlay.com www.DeepTrance.com
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Old 01-05-2006, 05:18 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Deep Trance wrote:
> HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and blowhard Tin Horn
> hypnotists on a TOOT, like to push the myth that ALL Hypnosis Is
> Self-Hypnosis. Try
> telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled vet that uses Animal
> Hypnosis to treat House Pets. Humans can be placed in trance out of
> their conscious awareness (whether they want to or not). Just like
> animals. Our old pre-verbal reptilian survival mind (Welcome To Cape
> Fear) knows without knowing when to roll over and play dead: "When you
> know you know you know EVERYTHING to know about HYPNOSIS, you know you
> know you know NOTHING." -TheShadowNose
> >


"The Shadow" shows that he doesn't know the difference between operant
conditioning and hypnosis.

Thanks for pointing out your lack of EDucation once again!

Go out and buy a dictionary and look up the two terms.

To paraphrase a George Lucas character: "I find your lack of knowledge
disturbing."

Lee Darrow, C.H.
http://www.leedarrow.com

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Old 01-05-2006, 10:27 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Deep Trance wrote:

> HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and blowhard Tin Horn
> hypnotists on a TOOT, like to push the myth that ALL Hypnosis Is
> Self-Hypnosis. Try
> telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled vet that uses Animal
> Hypnosis to treat House Pets. Humans can be placed in trance out of
> their conscious awareness (whether they want to or not). Just like
> animals. Our old pre-verbal reptilian survival mind (Welcome To Cape
> Fear) knows without knowing when to roll over and play dead: "When you
> know you know you know EVERYTHING to know about HYPNOSIS, you know you
> know you know NOTHING." -TheShadowNose
> >

> Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
> and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows
> forever beneath it." -Ed McClelland
> HypnoTheraPlay(c)
> www.HypnoTheraPlay.com www.DeepTrance.com
> DeepTrance@WebTV.Net



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Old 01-05-2006, 12:50 PM   #6 (permalink)
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HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and blowhard Tin Horn lay
hypnotists on a TOOT, like to push the myth that ALL Hypnosis Is
Self-Hypnosis. Try telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled vet
that uses Animal Hypnosis to treat House Pets. Humans can be placed in
trance out of their conscious awareness (whether they want to or not).
Just like animals. Our old pre-verbal reptilian survival mind (Welcome
To Cape Fear) knows without knowing when to roll over and play dead:
"When you know you know you know EVERYTHING to know about HYPNOSIS, you
know you know you know NOTHING." -TheShadowNose
>

Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows
forever beneath it." -Ed McClelland
HypnoTheraPlay(c)
www.HypnoTheraPlay.com www.DeepTrance.com
DeepTrance@WebTV.Net

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Old 01-05-2006, 12:52 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Deep Trance wrote:

> HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and blowhard Tin Horn lay
> hypnotists on a TOOT, like to push the myth that ALL Hypnosis Is
> Self-Hypnosis. Try telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled vet
> that uses Animal Hypnosis to treat House Pets. Humans can be placed in
> trance out of their conscious awareness (whether they want to or not).
> Just like animals. Our old pre-verbal reptilian survival mind (Welcome
> To Cape Fear) knows without knowing when to roll over and play dead:
> "When you know you know you know EVERYTHING to know about HYPNOSIS,
> you know you know you know NOTHING." -TheShadowNose
> >

> Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
> and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows
> forever beneath it." -Ed McClelland
> HypnoTheraPlay(c)
> www.HypnoTheraPlay.com www.DeepTrance.com
> DeepTrance@WebTV.Net




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Old 01-05-2006, 12:54 PM   #8 (permalink)
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HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and blowhard Tin Horn lay
hypnotists on a TOOT, like to push the myth that ALL Hypnosis Is
Self-Hypnosis. Try telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled vet
that uses Animal Hypnosis to treat House Pets. Humans can be placed in
trance out of their conscious awareness (whether they want to or not).
Just like animals. Our old pre-verbal reptilian survival mind (Welcome
To Cape Fear) knows without knowing when to roll over and play dead:
"When you know you know you know EVERYTHING to know about HYPNOSIS, you
know you know you know NOTHING." -TheShadowNose
>

Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows
forever beneath it." -Ed McClelland
HypnoTheraPlay(c)
www.HypnoTheraPlay.com www.DeepTrance.com
DeepTrance@WebTV.Net

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Old 01-05-2006, 01:09 PM   #9 (permalink)
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HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and blowhard Tin Horn lay
hypnotists on a TOOT, like to push the MYTH that ALL Hypnosis Is
"Self-Hypnosis". Try telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled vet
that uses Animal Hypnosis to treat House Pets. Humans can be placed in
trance out of their conscious awareness (whether they want to or not).
Just like animals (Dr. Mesmer was RIGHT). Our old pre-verbal reptilian
survival mind (Welcome
To Cape Fear) knows without knowing when to roll over and play dead:
When you know you know you know EVERYTHING to know about HYPNOSIS, you
know you know you know NOTHING." -TheShadowNose
> >

Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows
forever beneath it." -Ed McClelland
HypnoTheraPlay(c)
www.HypnoTheraPlay.com www.DeepTrance.com
DeepTrance@WebTV.Net

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Old 01-09-2006, 09:28 PM   #10 (permalink)
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'ON-TOPIC' HYPNO-SECRET: Ding-A-Ling hypnosis schools, and blowhard Tin
Horn lay hypnotists on a TOOT, like to push the MYTH that ALL Hypnosis
Is "Self-Hypnosis". Try telling this to Pavlov's dogs or the skilled
VET that uses 'Animal Hypnosis' to treat House Pets. Humans can be
placed in trance out of their conscious awareness (whether they like it
or not). Just like animals (Dr. Mesmer was RIGHT). Our old pre-verbal
reptilian survival mind (Welcome To Cape Fear) knows without knowing
when to roll over and play dead: When you know you know you know
EVERYTHING to know about HYPNOSIS, you know you know you know NOTHING."
-TheShadowNose
> > > > >

Eternity Bridge - "The bridge to eternity is built through the hearts
and minds of those who love us. And love is the river that flows
forever beneath it." -Ed McClelland
HypnoTheraPlay(c)
www.HypnoTheraPlay.com www.DeepTrance.com
DeepTrance@WebTV.Net

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