odysseus

nlp is not everything. it is only repackaged materials and ideas. nlp
is not business, but they can sell nlp as business. nlp can be used to
sell, but sales is only one level of business- there is accounting,
there is product, there is legal, and so on. nlp is very close to
sales. You can even use it to sell something that doesn't work. in the
richjerk.com one of the things that is used to help sell is sell people
hope. second strategy is to make it seem like you are the watchdog and
not selling anything. oh, and by the way, here are a couple products I
do recommend. beware of hope. hope is a vice. hope must die! give way
to reality

Cameron

I used to figure that if NLP was nothing more than a con to convince people
that NLP worked then at least it is a con that works to do that. Since then
I've made up a few more complex stories about what I've experienced.

Imagine presenting a training (or running a process) as a dance. You dont
really have to know <have a precice list of> how to move your feet or which
move comes next, particularly with a run sheet and a co-trainer the dance
evolves itself along the lines that you learnt when you learnt to dance.

I think Ritchard Bandler put it well once when he commented that he kept
seeing people stuck in various stages of his development. As a developer of
dance he taught dances, moved on and taught new ones then aparently saw fit
to comment that behavioural patterns he installed seemed remarkabally
stable.

Comercial trainers I'ld suggest tend to turn out more Comercial trainers and
they certainally grab for more attention and advertising. I suspect polling
a street for names associated with NLP you'ld get Ross and Anthony Robbins
before Ritchard and John Grindler probally would get as much play as
Erickson.

That may not be a list in order of my respect for their skill and style.

Is the glitz and the hype, the finger clicking and the dominance all there
is to NLP? I hope not I've put in too much of myself exporing it. Is it the
easiest part to see, reject and get hung up about? Well I've put some of me
into that at times as well.

I suppose given that the public image of nlp is formed more by the loudest
most coment worthy public examples it may not be a dicipline that I wish to
publicly identify with. On the other hand I beleive it's my best option for
encountering people who communicate in a systamatic if high chunk manner and
who use and explore some of the capacity of the mind without deciding they
are the cleverest holiest thing around.