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Old 01-30-2006, 02:30 AM   #1 (permalink)
Cameron
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"UnKa" <monsterbrat49@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> You got to wonder about those NLP people who come in here, they post ad
> after ad about their products, turn on people who disagree with them
> and yet, never post anything that people can just read, enjoy and learn.
> something, about NLP or related fields. Is the NLP community folks so
> stingy and so worried about making that dollar that they forget
> charity? I am not talking about giving away the farm so you can't make
> a living but at least give something back to those who support you by
> buying your shitty products Where is your spirit of giving? Did the
> almighty dollar drive it away and made it live on reservations?



Some of the antagonism you experience could be the fact that you enjoy
slaughtering sacred cows where you can and are not at all afraid of ad
hominim attacks, straw cases, trolling or flaming. Not only can I not alter
that behaviour in you I'me not even sure I entirely disaprove because
despite any thing about your debating style, when you do weigh in with facts
not pure retoric I find your posts valuable.

Of course I'me perfect understand everyone and never make a spwelling error
so we'll get on fine.


I wonder sometimes about new agers in general, the number I've seem raise
implicit dominance structures in their groups as as you say focus more on
the almighty dollar than their "real" goals. If someone comes up to me
offering me a sure system for making a fortune I'me cynical enough to wonder
if they have this great system why are they pimping their ass on the street
selling it to me.

If someone comes along selling me a "massively transformational experience
that will unlock my inner potential" I wonder both how they are planning on
locking it down and then why such a bunch of obviously enlightened
superbeings (just listen to the things they say about themselves and their
work) need my mortal monies. and of course if they dont behaviourally come
up the the standards that are set why are these wankers running round
pretending to be minor forces of nature.

Why out of the last 30 years or so of development of this field (within the
name nlp) that no one who calls them selves that has designed a thin
business system? if a couple of people at trainer level sat down and decided
that rather than more money or lifestyle, more time off or expensive
holdiays and decided

"IF we have such a cool technology that can help the world so much, how can
we use it not to enritch ourselves but to serve our fellow man"

Me, I have no "TM" no dhe no 3-d mind no holotrophic breathwork no system to
put faith where my common sense should be, this like all other positions has
effects on my experience and behaviour.

But yeah, the first trainer who admits that their technology is not so
secret that they cant even show me any, not so valuable that I have to pay
per view, that their life is not focused enough on money that they demand
ethics and ask for the cash. Who has enough faith in the materials they
produce to recognise that giving away 100 free samples that are big enough
to really get a sample is not loosing 100 clients unless they were all going
to pay and decide that they shouldn't have before they got to the end of a
couple of hours of material.

Do it for the money, just dont tell me aboutt he peace love and mungbeans.


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