Tom Vizzini

Something I recived today:

This message is being sent to every member of the American Board of NLP, the
Time Line TherapyT Association, the American Board of Hypnotherapy along
with everyone associated with NLPWeekly.com. Together this is the strength
of 50,000 voices.

These companies and organizations have come together in a time of change to
inform you about something that you need to pay attention to, now. This is
a time sensitive e-mail so please take the next few minutes to read it.

The FDA in the US has proposed to regulate alternative therapies including
vitamins and possibly hypnosis as medical devices or treatments. That means
that vitamins and minerals above the Recommended Daily Allowance will be
unavailable, and Hypnosis could be illegal to practice unless you are a
Medical Doctor. Other alternative therapies will become illegal too.

To read more see:

www.newstarget.com/021789.html

The article above will describe in detail what is going on, how it will
affect you directly and what you can do about it! Make sure that you click
on the direct link to the FDA's comment posting page before April 30th.



This quote is from the article above: "The FDA is accepting public comments
on the docket until April 30th. They tried to sneak this under the radar,
but word got out and now the natural health community is up in arms over
this rule. If you wish to protect your access to nutritional supplements,
herbs, essential oils, homeopathic medicine or any other "complementary" or
"alternative" modality, it is crucial that you take action to post your
comments with the FDA right now and write your representatives in Washington
to put a stop to this outrageous effort to destroy natural medicine. (And be
sure to really write them. Just sending an email has virtually no impact
compared to writing a physical letter in your own words.)"

I am sure that many of you have also heard of the world-wide vitamin and
mineral changes being made and understand its implications on our health
globally. However, what we have just found out is that we have the next 10
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If you are unfamiliar with this subject please understand that this may
sound bizarre. We are essentially talking about a ruling or treaty that if
passed will make illegal globally all vitamins, minerals, herbs (even herbs
grown in your garden) along with ALL other natural, alternative and
complementary therapies. This is not only going to affect your personal
health, but it will also affect your career as a hypnotherapist or if you
are involved in any other form of complementary practice.

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http://www4.dr-rath-foundation.org/f...codex_wto.html

www.HealthFreedomUSA.org

This is a video that gives you a deep understanding of what we are up
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http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...233634&q=codex

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Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\

I bet they thought I had posted this!

They can't be serious, can they?

Maybe they've been reading these groups and decided enough was enough.


--
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Price And Probability (The Value Handicapper's Bible)
http://www.cybersheet.com/horsepix.html

Would someone PLEASE become Ashlee Schull's new #1 fan? She deserves
better.

Paul Knight

> The FDA in the US has proposed to regulate alternative therapies including
> vitamins and possibly hypnosis as medical devices or treatments. That means
> that vitamins and minerals above the Recommended Daily Allowance will be
> unavailable, and Hypnosis could be illegal to practice unless you are a
> Medical Doctor. Other alternative therapies will become illegal too.

While I appreciate the concern regarding regulation of various devices,
oils, supplements, etc. before all of us start panicking, I think a
careful reading of the regulation is important. Specifically, the
following quote, especially the second paragraph:

*****************

NCCAM describes mind-body medicine as focusing on "the interactions
among the brain, mind, body, and behavior, and the powerful ways in
which emotional, mental, social, spiritual, and behavioral factors can
directly affect health." It states that mindbody medicine "typically
focuses on intervention strategies that are thought to promote health,
such as relaxation, hypnosis, visual imagery, meditation, yoga,
biofeedback, tai chi, qi gong, cognitive-behavioral therapies, group
support, autogenic training, and spirituality."

In general, CAM practices in this domain would not be subject to our
jurisdiction under the Act or the PHs Act. As with the manipulative and
body-based practices domain, however, any equipment or other products
used as part of the practice of mindbody medicine may be subject to FDA
regulation, depending on the nature of the product and its intended use.
For example, biofeedback machines intended to help a patient learn to
affect body functions, such as muscle activity, are regulated as class
I1 devices.

*****************

This pretty much says that unless you are using some sort of equipment
or other products to do hypnosis, NLP, etc. you will not be regulated. I
would assume certain products may be regulated, but the majority (like
swinging watches or hypnodisks) would not. Much of the equipment that
would be regulated, as noted, is already regulated so there would be no
significant change. I seriously doubt audio or video tapes would be
regulated as that is not "equipment".

From what I can tell, the FDA wants to make sure the "supplements" you
are taking are what they claim to be, that they won't kill you and have
been manufactured in a sanitary environment. They also want to be sure
that any equipment is safe to use. For example, you would not want
accupuncturists to use needles that were not sterilized.

Whether or not you want the FDA to regulate this stuff is up to you.
However, I do not see this posing any threat to hypnosis or NLP.

HeeroYuy

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:HomdnU1dauprurfbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@pghconnect.c om...
>I bet they thought I had posted this!
>
> They can't be serious, can they?
>
> Maybe they've been reading these groups and decided enough was enough.

And maybe you're an idiot. What part of "unenforceable" is not registering.

Nic

Enforcing this could be interesting - for example, how in practical
terms, do you distinguish between hypnosis and guided visualisation?

How do you stop someone from saying, "I'm not a qualified nutritionist,
but when a friend had a similar problem to yours, supplement x worked
well for them." Australia has had legislation concerning nutritional
advice for some time now but they have been unable to prevent this sort
of approach.

I'm all for tighter regulation: there are many charlatans out there.
However, creating workable legislation is problematic at the very least.

HellBrat

They also want to make sure that these devices and disciplines don't
cut into the profits of their masters, the pharmaceutical companies,
why else would the FDA ban natural cures shown to be effective?


UnKaH

On Apr 21, 11:39 am, Paul Knight <knig...@execpc.com> wrote:
> > The FDA in the US has proposed to regulate alternative therapies including
> > vitamins and possibly hypnosis as medical devices or treatments. That means
> > that vitamins and minerals above the Recommended Daily Allowance will be
> > unavailable, and Hypnosis could be illegal to practice unless you are a
> > Medical Doctor. Other alternative therapies will become illegal too.
>
> While I appreciate the concern regarding regulation of various devices,
> oils, supplements, etc. before all of us start panicking, I think a
> careful reading of the regulation is important. Specifically, the
> following quote, especially the second paragraph:
>
> *****************
>
> NCCAM describes mind-body medicine as focusing on "the interactions
> among the brain, mind, body, and behavior, and the powerful ways in
> which emotional, mental, social, spiritual, and behavioral factors can
> directly affect health." It states that mindbody medicine "typically
> focuses on intervention strategies that are thought to promote health,
> such as relaxation, hypnosis, visual imagery, meditation, yoga,
> biofeedback, tai chi, qi gong, cognitive-behavioral therapies, group
> support, autogenic training, and spirituality."
>
> In general, CAM practices in this domain would not be subject to our
> jurisdiction under the Act or the PHs Act. As with the manipulative and
> body-based practices domain, however, any equipment or other products
> used as part of the practice of mindbody medicine may be subject to FDA
> regulation, depending on the nature of the product and its intended use.
> For example, biofeedback machines intended to help a patient learn to
> affect body functions, such as muscle activity, are regulated as class
> I1 devices.
>
> *****************
>
> This pretty much says that unless you are using some sort of equipment
> or other products to do hypnosis, NLP, etc. you will not be regulated. I
> would assume certain products may be regulated, but the majority (like
> swinging watches or hypnodisks) would not. Much of the equipment that
> would be regulated, as noted, is already regulated so there would be no
> significant change. I seriously doubt audio or video tapes would be
> regulated as that is not "equipment".
>
> From what I can tell, the FDA wants to make sure the "supplements" you
> are taking are what they claim to be, that they won't kill you and have
> been manufactured in a sanitary environment. They also want to be sure
> that any equipment is safe to use. For example, you would not want
> accupuncturists to use needles that were not sterilized.
>
> Whether or not you want the FDA to regulate this stuff is up to you.
> However, I do not see this posing any threat to hypnosis or NLP.

OlOlOl01

"Nic" <nicoliver@btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:0dudnWNRvYlKxbfbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d@bt.com...
> Enforcing this could be interesting - for example, how in practical terms,
> do you distinguish between hypnosis and guided visualisation?
>
> How do you stop someone from saying, "I'm not a qualified nutritionist,
> but when a friend had a similar problem to yours, supplement x worked well
> for them."

They have done it in the Stalinist EC by making it law that all
supplements undergo tests near enough equivalent to
prescriptyion pharmaceuticals.
Cost of doing this is of course astronomical, wit the effect that
selling such (uncertified) supplements is effecively illegal and
thus they are withdrawn from retailers shelves.

(The health food industry suspects big pharma lobbying at government
level such as to create big pharma monopoly...)

Bornnatural

"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:HomdnU1dauprurfbnZ2dnUVZ_gKdnZ2d@pghconnect.c om...
>I bet they thought I had posted this!
>
> They can't be serious, can they?
>
> Maybe they've been reading these groups and decided enough was enough.



The FDA tries this crap every few years.....moron.


BN