Buck

Hi,

I just read a few articles about NLP and became fairly interested. Can
anybody recommend a good book for getting started? I wonder if the
originals of Bandler and Grinder are good to start with, or whether
they might be outdated.
I don't have any background in psychology or NLP so far.
I'd also appreciate recommendations of German books.

Thanks
Buck

Garry Knight

Buck wrote:

> I just read a few articles about NLP and became fairly interested. Can
> anybody recommend a good book for getting started?

"Introducing NLP" by Joseph O'Connor and John Seymour is the best
introduction to NLP, in my opinion.

> I wonder if the originals of Bandler and Grinder are good to start with,
> or whether they might be outdated.

Not outdated, it's just that you get a better

--
Garry Knight
garryknight@gmx.net

John Wingert

Hi Buck,

Skip books.

Start at the minimum with cd's / dvd's and some live training.

NLP requires that you work more with humans than theory.

Sorry if this sounds a little harsh or odd, but, there are way too
many folks in the field who are experts, who have very little
experience with real people.

And from books, you'll never be able to learn the subtle stuff you'll
hear / see on more live products.

20/20 The Weird Obtuse NLP Guru formerly known as John Wingert
http://www.nlplive.com

On Jun 21, 6:19 pm, Buck <juergen.b...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just read a few articles about NLP and became fairly interested. Can
> anybody recommend a good book for getting started? I wonder if the
> originals of Bandler and Grinder are good to start with, or whether
> they might be outdated.
> I don't have any background in psychology or NLP so far.
> I'd also appreciate recommendations of German books.
>
> Thanks
> Buck

Garry Knight

Buck wrote:

[Sorry, hit Send too early]

Buck wrote:

> I just read a few articles about NLP and became fairly interested. Can
> anybody recommend a good book for getting started?

"Introducing NLP" by Joseph O'Connor and John Seymour is the best
introduction to NLP, in my opinion.

> I wonder if the originals of Bandler and Grinder are good to start with,
> or whether they might be outdated.

Not outdated, it's just that most of their books are on specific sub-chunks
of NLP and I think you get a better overview with an introduction.

--
Garry Knight
garryknight@gmx.net

HellBwat

My question would be, what do you want to learn nlp for?

Tim

On Jun 21, 6:19 pm, Buck <juergen.b...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just read a few articles about NLP and became fairly interested. Can
> anybody recommend a good book for getting started? I wonder if the
> originals of Bandler and Grinder are good to start with, or whether
> they might be outdated.
> I don't have any background in psychology or NLP so far.
> I'd also appreciate recommendations of German books.
>
> Thanks
> Buck

Buck

Hi -

thanks for your answers so far.

> My question would be, what do you want to learn nlp for?

Well, I don't know much about the different aspects of NLP so far.
What I'd like to learn is primarily to be more persuasive in any part
of life, which I hope will help me to realise my goals easier.
I also hope to become more confident and straightforward, which is
probably the part of NLP which internally affects myself instead of
the "external" communication with others.
I hope this makes any sense...

Buck

> On Jun 21, 6:19 pm, Buck <juergen.b...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
>
> > I just read a few articles about NLP and became fairly interested. Can
> > anybody recommend a good book for getting started? I wonder if the
> > originals of Bandler and Grinder are good to start with, or whether
> > they might be outdated.
> > I don't have any background in psychology or NLP so far.
> > I'd also appreciate recommendations of German books.
>
> > Thanks
> > Buck

Venus

On Jun 25, 3:08 pm, Buck <juergen.b...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi -
>
> thanks for your answers so far.
>
> > My question would be, what do you want to learn nlp for?
>
> Well, I don't know much about the different aspects of NLP so far.
> What I'd like to learn is primarily to be more persuasive in any part
> of life, which I hope will help me to realise my goals easier.
> I also hope to become more confident and straightforward, which is
> probably the part of NLP which internally affects myself instead of
> the "external" communication with others.
> I hope this makes any sense...
>
> Buck
>
> > On Jun 21, 6:19 pm, Buck <juergen.b...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
>
> > > I just read a few articles about NLP and became fairly interested. Can
> > > anybody recommend a good book for getting started? I wonder if the
> > > originals of Bandler and Grinder are good to start with, or whether
> > > they might be outdated.
> > > I don't have any background in psychology or NLP so far.
> > > I'd also appreciate recommendations of German books.
>
> > > Thanks
> > > Buck

Buck,

I don't know about for others, but for me one of the most important
aspects of persuasion is to believe in what your selling (whether it's
a car, a stick of furniture, or your own ideas). There are all kinds
of techniques (fancy and otherwise) for making a sale and you'd do
well to look into some of the literature that's out there. Your local
library would be a good place to start.

But on top of all those techniques, or better yet, BEFORE any of those
techniques can be truly effective, you must be congruent (and this is
a bit of NLP for you to sink your teeth into) about the thing in
itself that you are attempting to "sell." Before you try to persuade
someone of something it's helpful to ask yourself questions like "Do I
think this car will suit the needs of my prospect?" or "Is this
furniture good enough quality that I would consider owning it
myself?"

When it comes to ideas if you are honest when you put yourself out
there it's a lot easier to be passionate about what you are saying.

Now, of course, that does not mean that everyone (or even one) person
you run into is going to buy what you're selling. But many of the best
sales people will tell you that even with good techniques and
congruity they might count on converting only one in ten attempts into
actual sales. And that's for face-to-face selling. Selling by
telephone and direct mail will net you significantly lower results.

But the point is this. First you have to believe your message in order
for it to be believable.

I hope you might find a little nugget in what I've said to get you off
on the right foot as you begin to go after your goals.

Good luck!

Venus