nlp - alt-psychology-nlp

02-24-2008, 12:41 PM

Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP
from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas
and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon,
Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from
NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas
has a newsletter each month.

Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas
and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic
fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm
comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while
writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my
imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on.

All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.

02-24-2008, 01:37 PM

On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
> Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP
> from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas
> and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon,
> Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from
> NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas
> has a newsletter each month.
>
> Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas
> and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic
> fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm
> comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while
> writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my
> imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on.
>
> All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.

Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those
groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up
in recent times

Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this
ng

All time
4263 m_deb...@despammed.com
1788 nos...@sargant.net
1461 HellBwat
1366 quen...@inhb.co.nz
1236 t...@essential-skills.com
1176 Nick Kemp
993 d...@deep-trance.com
929 pstu...@aol.com
875 rob...@svensknlp.nu

Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many
others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters
(especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will
probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being
here no longer a productive use of time

02-24-2008, 01:52 PM

On Feb 24, 7:37ï¿½am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP
> > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas
> > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon,
> > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from
> > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas
> > has a newsletter each month.
>
> > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas
> > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic
> > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm
> > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while
> > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my
> > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on.
>
> > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.
>
> Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those
> groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up
> in recent times
>
> Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this
> ng
>
> All time
> 4263 ï¿½ ï¿½m_deb...@despammed.com
> 1788 ï¿½ ï¿½nos...@sargant.net
> 1461 ï¿½ ï¿½HellBwat
> 1366 ï¿½ ï¿½quen...@inhb.co.nz
> 1236 ï¿½ ï¿½t...@essential-skills.com
> 1176 ï¿½ ï¿½Nick Kemp
> 993 ï¿½ ï¿½ d...@deep-trance.com
> 929 ï¿½ ï¿½ pstu...@aol.com
> 875 ï¿½ ï¿½ rob...@svensknlp.nu
>
> Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many
> others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters
> (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will
> probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being
> here no longer a productive use of time

Sorry..it wasn't a question. It was a cALL to start posting
sOmeThinGing useful.

02-24-2008, 02:10 PM

On Feb 24, 1:52 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 7:37ï¿½am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP
> > > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas
> > > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon,
> > > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from
> > > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas
> > > has a newsletter each month.
>
> > > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas
> > > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic
> > > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm
> > > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while
> > > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my
> > > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on.
>
> > > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.
>
> > Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those
> > groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up
> > in recent times
>
> > Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this
> > ng
>
> > All time
> > 4263 ï¿½ ï¿½m_deb...@despammed.com
> > 1788 ï¿½ ï¿½nos...@sargant.net
> > 1461 ï¿½ ï¿½HellBwat
> > 1366 ï¿½ ï¿½quen...@inhb.co.nz
> > 1236 ï¿½ ï¿½t...@essential-skills.com
> > 1176 ï¿½ ï¿½Nick Kemp
> > 993 ï¿½ ï¿½ d...@deep-trance.com
> > 929 ï¿½ ï¿½ pstu...@aol.com
> > 875 ï¿½ ï¿½ rob...@svensknlp.nu
>
> > Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many
> > others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters
> > (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will luck
> > probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being
> > here no longer a productive use of time
>
> Sorry..it wasn't a question. It was a cALL to start posting
> sOmeThinGing useful.

I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are
other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine
debate, but good luck with asking the question!

02-24-2008, 03:01 PM

On Feb 24, 8:10Â*am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 1:52 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Feb 24, 7:37ï¿½am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > > > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP
> > > > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas
> > > > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon,
> > > > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from
> > > > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas
> > > > has a newsletter each month.
>
> > > > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas
> > > > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic
> > > > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm
> > > > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while
> > > > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my
> > > > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on.
>
> > > > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.
>
> > > Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those
> > > groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up
> > > in recent times
>
> > > Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this
> > > ng
>
> > > All time
> > > 4263 ï¿½ ï¿½m_deb...@despammed.com
> > > 1788 ï¿½ ï¿½nos...@sargant.net
> > > 1461 ï¿½ ï¿½HellBwat
> > > 1366 ï¿½ ï¿½quen...@inhb.co.nz
> > > 1236 ï¿½ ï¿½t...@essential-skills.com
> > > 1176 ï¿½ ï¿½Nick Kemp
> > > 993 ï¿½ ï¿½ d...@deep-trance.com
> > > 929 ï¿½ ï¿½ pstu...@aol.com
> > > 875 ï¿½ ï¿½ rob...@svensknlp.nu
>
> > > Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many
> > > others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters
> > > (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will luck
> > > probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being
> > > here no longer a productive use of time
>
> > Sorry..it wasn't a question. It was a cALL to start posting
> > sOmeThinGing useful.
>
> I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are
> other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine
> debate, but good luck with asking the question!- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Nick, that was a great response, and yet I try...

02-24-2008, 05:59 PM

On Feb 24, 9:10 am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:

So instead of trying to get this thing going, you just make a negative
statement about it and know it is not going any where, this the what
nlp does to you? Makes you a quitter?

Tim
>
> I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are
> other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine
> debate, but good luck with asking the question!

02-24-2008, 07:34 PM

On Feb 24, 5:59 pm, HellBwat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 9:10 am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> So instead of trying to get this thing going, you just make a negative
> statement about it and know it is not going any where, this the what
> nlp does to you? Makes you a quitter?
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> > I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are
> > other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine
> > debate, but good luck with asking the question!

Always happy to quit wasting time and energy and instead focussing on
better outcomes and interactions with those people genuinely enthused
by intelligent discussions in NLP and other change work approaches!

Regards

Nick Kemp

02-25-2008, 10:14 AM

On Feb 24, 11:59ï¿½am, HellBwat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 9:10 am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> So instead of trying to get this thing going, you just make a negative
> statement about it and know it is not going any where, this the what
> nlp does to you? Makes you a quitter?
>
> ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim
Are U a describer? U certainly described what was going on. The
original text
was about Steve Andreas. Connie. Gerry Schmidt.

Can U ad to this text, it's cOntent.

02-25-2008, 10:16 AM

On Feb 24, 1:34ï¿½pm, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 5:59 pm, HellBwat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 24, 9:10 am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > So instead of trying to get this thing going, you just make a negative
> > statement about it and know it is not going any where, this the what
> > nlp does to you? Makes you a quitter?
>
> > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim
>
> > > I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are
> > > other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine
> > > debate, but good luck with asking the question!
>
> Always happy to quit wasting time and energy and instead focussing on
> better outcomes and interactions with those people genuinely enthused
> by intelligent discussions in NLP and other change work approaches!
>
> Regards
>
> Nick Kemp

I offered a genuine discussion of NLP and U gave me a bs route
to take. Do you know NLP? If U do please share it.

02-25-2008, 10:23 AM

On Feb 24, 7:37ï¿½am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP
> > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas
> > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon,
> > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from
> > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas
> > has a newsletter each month.
>
> > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas
> > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic
> > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm
> > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while
> > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my
> > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on.
>
> > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.
>
> Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those
> groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up
> in recent times
>
> Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this
> ng
>
> All time
> 4263 ï¿½ ï¿½m_deb...@despammed.com
> 1788 ï¿½ ï¿½nos...@sargant.net
> 1461 ï¿½ ï¿½HellBwat
> 1366 ï¿½ ï¿½quen...@inhb.co.nz
> 1236 ï¿½ ï¿½t...@essential-skills.com
> 1176 ï¿½ ï¿½Nick Kemp
> 993 ï¿½ ï¿½ d...@deep-trance.com
> 929 ï¿½ ï¿½ pstu...@aol.com
> 875 ï¿½ ï¿½ rob...@svensknlp.nu
>
> Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many
> others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters
> (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will
> probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being
> here no longer a productive use of time

Sorry Nick. U forgot Bigjiim. Been posting here for ten years. Check
the log. And I won't leave because U think this is a wasteland. Are U
in
for some productive posts or should I count U out?

Ur last post didn't seem to exciting...

02-25-2008, 05:59 PM

On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:

Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler
demonstrate nlp?
does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and
richard supplied the proof it doesn't.

Tim

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related

02-25-2008, 10:16 PM

On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:12 -0800 (PST), HellBwat
<monsterbrat49@yahoo.com> wrote:

>On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler
>demonstrate nlp?
>does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and
>richard supplied the proof it doesn't.
>
>
> Tim
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related
>
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related

I wondered how long it would take you to turn up with your predictable
approach.

Since you are the one shedding crocodile tears about how there are no
real debates on this group -

"You and I, John, can turn this whole ng around. What do you say
bubba?
How about some interesting and thought provoking material instead of
the constant your a dick, no your a dick theme?"

- you might have given 17 a chance to bring something back to the
group.

Sadly talk is cheap and your behaviour betrays your hostile intentions
yet again.

--
John

02-28-2008, 01:32 PM

On Feb 25, 11:59ï¿½am, HellBwat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler
> demonstrate nlp?
> does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and
> richard supplied the proof it doesn't.
>
> ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ Tim
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related

HellBwat,

I've seen Richard Bandler fail, firsthand.

In business, I've not seen something as effective as NLP "stuff".

Take it for what it's worth.

02-28-2008, 01:37 PM

On Feb 25, 4:16ï¿½pm, John <67vnue6o@knwfv> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:12 -0800 (PST), HellBwat
>
> <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler
> >demonstrate nlp?
> >does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and
> >richard supplied the proof it doesn't.
>
> > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related
>
> I wondered how long it would take you to turn up with your predictable
> approach.
>
> Since you are the one shedding crocodile tears about how there are no
> real debates on this group -
>
> "You and I, John, can turn this whole ng around. What do you say
> bubba?
> How about some interesting and thought provoking material instead of
> the constant your a dick, no your a dick theme?"
>
> - you might have given 17 a chance to bring something back to the
> group.
>
> Sadly talk is cheap and your behaviour betrays your hostile intentions
> yet again.
>
> --
> John ï¿½

How about some deep knowledge?

RB & JG in "Structure of Magic I" report about about matching &
mirroring.
About going somewhere and mirroring a person's movement.

Anyone try those exercise's in the book? What did you find out?

02-28-2008, 01:40 PM

On Feb 25, 4:16ï¿½pm, John <67vnue6o@knwfv> wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:12 -0800 (PST), HellBwat
>
> <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler
> >demonstrate nlp?
> >does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and
> >richard supplied the proof it doesn't.
>
> > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related
>
> >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related
>
> I wondered how long it would take you to turn up with your predictable
> approach.
>
> Since you are the one shedding crocodile tears about how there are no
> real debates on this group -
>
> "You and I, John, can turn this whole ng around. What do you say
> bubba?
> How about some interesting and thought provoking material instead of
> the constant your a dick, no your a dick theme?"
>
> - you might have given 17 a chance to bring something back to the
> group.
>
> Sadly talk is cheap and your behaviour betrays your hostile intentions
> yet again.
>
> --
> John ï¿½

Talk is cheap Timmy. Do the exercises (did u ever?). A booklearned
NLPer u r.

That's the bitterness. U don't have any experience with Bandler do U?

Sorry. Not our problem...

03-03-2008, 08:04 AM

On Feb 28, 7:40Â*am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
> On Feb 25, 4:16ï¿½pm, John <67vnue6o@knwfv> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:12 -0800 (PST), HellBwat
>
> > <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> > >Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler
> > >demonstrate nlp?
> > >does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and
> > >richard supplied the proof it doesn't.
>
> > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related
>
> > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related
>
> > I wondered how long it would take you to turn up with your predictable
> > approach.
>
> > Since you are the one shedding crocodile tears about how there are no
> > real debates on this group -
>
> > "You and I, John, can turn this whole ng around. What do you say
> > bubba?
> > How about some interesting and thought provoking material instead of
> > the constant your a dick, no your a dick theme?"
>
> > - you might have given 17 a chance to bring something back to the
> > group.
>
> > Sadly talk is cheap and your behaviour betrays your hostile intentions
> > yet again.
>
> > --
> > John ï¿½
>
> Talk is cheap Timmy. Do the exercises (did u ever?). A booklearned
> NLPer u r.
>
> That's the bitterness. U don't have any experience with Bandler do U?
>
> Sorry. Not our problem...- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP
from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas
and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon,
Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from
NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas
has a newsletter each month.

Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas
and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic
fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm
comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while
writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my
imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on.

All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.

02-24-2008, 12:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	nlp Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon, Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas has a newsletter each month. Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on. All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.

02-24-2008, 01:37 PM	#2 (permalink)
Nick Kemp Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon, > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas > has a newsletter each month. > > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on. > > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two. Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up in recent times Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this ng All time 4263 m_deb...@despammed.com 1788 nos...@sargant.net 1461 HellBwat 1366 quen...@inhb.co.nz 1236 t...@essential-skills.com 1176 Nick Kemp 993 d...@deep-trance.com 929 pstu...@aol.com 875 rob...@svensknlp.nu Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being here no longer a productive use of time

02-24-2008, 01:52 PM	#3 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 7:37ï¿½am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP > > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas > > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon, > > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from > > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas > > has a newsletter each month. > > > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas > > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic > > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm > > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while > > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my > > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on. > > > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two. > > Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those > groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up > in recent times > > Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this > ng > > All time > 4263 ï¿½ ï¿½m_deb...@despammed.com > 1788 ï¿½ ï¿½nos...@sargant.net > 1461 ï¿½ ï¿½HellBwat > 1366 ï¿½ ï¿½quen...@inhb.co.nz > 1236 ï¿½ ï¿½t...@essential-skills.com > 1176 ï¿½ ï¿½Nick Kemp > 993 ï¿½ ï¿½ d...@deep-trance.com > 929 ï¿½ ï¿½ pstu...@aol.com > 875 ï¿½ ï¿½ rob...@svensknlp.nu > > Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many > others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters > (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will > probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being > here no longer a productive use of time Sorry..it wasn't a question. It was a cALL to start posting sOmeThinGing useful.

02-24-2008, 02:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
Nick Kemp Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 1:52 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 7:37ï¿½am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > > > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP > > > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas > > > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon, > > > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from > > > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas > > > has a newsletter each month. > > > > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas > > > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic > > > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm > > > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while > > > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my > > > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on. > > > > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two. > > > Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those > > groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up > > in recent times > > > Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this > > ng > > > All time > > 4263 ï¿½ ï¿½m_deb...@despammed.com > > 1788 ï¿½ ï¿½nos...@sargant.net > > 1461 ï¿½ ï¿½HellBwat > > 1366 ï¿½ ï¿½quen...@inhb.co.nz > > 1236 ï¿½ ï¿½t...@essential-skills.com > > 1176 ï¿½ ï¿½Nick Kemp > > 993 ï¿½ ï¿½ d...@deep-trance.com > > 929 ï¿½ ï¿½ pstu...@aol.com > > 875 ï¿½ ï¿½ rob...@svensknlp.nu > > > Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many > > others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters > > (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will luck > > probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being > > here no longer a productive use of time > > Sorry..it wasn't a question. It was a cALL to start posting > sOmeThinGing useful. I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine debate, but good luck with asking the question!

02-24-2008, 03:01 PM	#5 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 8:10Â*am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 1:52 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Feb 24, 7:37ï¿½am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > > > > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP > > > > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas > > > > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon, > > > > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from > > > > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas > > > > has a newsletter each month. > > > > > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas > > > > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic > > > > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm > > > > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while > > > > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my > > > > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on. > > > > > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two. > > > > Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those > > > groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up > > > in recent times > > > > Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this > > > ng > > > > All time > > > 4263 ï¿½ ï¿½m_deb...@despammed.com > > > 1788 ï¿½ ï¿½nos...@sargant.net > > > 1461 ï¿½ ï¿½HellBwat > > > 1366 ï¿½ ï¿½quen...@inhb.co.nz > > > 1236 ï¿½ ï¿½t...@essential-skills.com > > > 1176 ï¿½ ï¿½Nick Kemp > > > 993 ï¿½ ï¿½ d...@deep-trance.com > > > 929 ï¿½ ï¿½ pstu...@aol.com > > > 875 ï¿½ ï¿½ rob...@svensknlp.nu > > > > Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many > > > others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters > > > (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will luck > > > probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being > > > here no longer a productive use of time > > > Sorry..it wasn't a question. It was a cALL to start posting > > sOmeThinGing useful. > > I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are > other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine > debate, but good luck with asking the question!- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Nick, that was a great response, and yet I try...

02-24-2008, 05:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
HellBwat Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 9:10 am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: So instead of trying to get this thing going, you just make a negative statement about it and know it is not going any where, this the what nlp does to you? Makes you a quitter? Tim > > I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are > other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine > debate, but good luck with asking the question!

02-24-2008, 07:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Nick Kemp Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 5:59 pm, HellBwat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 9:10 am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > So instead of trying to get this thing going, you just make a negative > statement about it and know it is not going any where, this the what > nlp does to you? Makes you a quitter? > > Tim > > > > > I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are > > other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine > > debate, but good luck with asking the question! Always happy to quit wasting time and energy and instead focussing on better outcomes and interactions with those people genuinely enthused by intelligent discussions in NLP and other change work approaches! Regards Nick Kemp

02-25-2008, 10:14 AM	#8 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 11:59ï¿½am, HellBwat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 9:10 am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > So instead of trying to get this thing going, you just make a negative > statement about it and know it is not going any where, this the what > nlp does to you? Makes you a quitter? > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim Are U a describer? U certainly described what was going on. The original text was about Steve Andreas. Connie. Gerry Schmidt. Can U ad to this text, it's cOntent.

02-25-2008, 10:16 AM	#9 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 1:34ï¿½pm, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 5:59 pm, HellBwat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Feb 24, 9:10 am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > So instead of trying to get this thing going, you just make a negative > > statement about it and know it is not going any where, this the what > > nlp does to you? Makes you a quitter? > > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim > > > > I doubt if anyone who is interested in NLP will bother as there are > > > other places which there is far greater interest in nlp and genuine > > > debate, but good luck with asking the question! > > Always happy to quit wasting time and energy and instead focussing on > better outcomes and interactions with those people genuinely enthused > by intelligent discussions in NLP and other change work approaches! > > Regards > > Nick Kemp I offered a genuine discussion of NLP and U gave me a bs route to take. Do you know NLP? If U do please share it.

02-25-2008, 10:23 AM	#10 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 24, 7:37ï¿½am, Nick Kemp <nickkemp2...@hotmail.com> wrote: > On Feb 24, 12:41 pm, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > > Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP > > from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas > > and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon, > > Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from > > NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas > > has a newsletter each month. > > > Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas > > and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic > > fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm > > comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while > > writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my > > imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on. > > > All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two. > > Most people departed some time ago to discuss elsewhere and those > groups that I know of are doing great, with some new ones starting up > in recent times > > Here are the stats for who has posted the most since the start of this > ng > > All time > 4263 ï¿½ ï¿½m_deb...@despammed.com > 1788 ï¿½ ï¿½nos...@sargant.net > 1461 ï¿½ ï¿½HellBwat > 1366 ï¿½ ï¿½quen...@inhb.co.nz > 1236 ï¿½ ï¿½t...@essential-skills.com > 1176 ï¿½ ï¿½Nick Kemp > 993 ï¿½ ï¿½ d...@deep-trance.com > 929 ï¿½ ï¿½ pstu...@aol.com > 875 ï¿½ ï¿½ rob...@svensknlp.nu > > Mike DeBusk left and still posts elsewhere as does Adam and many > others. A quick check on the posting history of the other main posters > (especially their interest and/or lack of interest in NLP) will > probably tell you all you need to know about why people find being > here no longer a productive use of time Sorry Nick. U forgot Bigjiim. Been posting here for ten years. Check the log. And I won't leave because U think this is a wasteland. Are U in for some productive posts or should I count U out? Ur last post didn't seem to exciting...

02-25-2008, 05:59 PM	#11 (permalink)
HellBwat Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler demonstrate nlp? does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and richard supplied the proof it doesn't. Tim http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related

02-25-2008, 10:16 PM	#12 (permalink)
John Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:12 -0800 (PST), HellBwat <monsterbrat49@yahoo.com> wrote: >On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > >Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler >demonstrate nlp? >does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and >richard supplied the proof it doesn't. > > > Tim > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related I wondered how long it would take you to turn up with your predictable approach. Since you are the one shedding crocodile tears about how there are no real debates on this group - "You and I, John, can turn this whole ng around. What do you say bubba? How about some interesting and thought provoking material instead of the constant your a dick, no your a dick theme?" - you might have given 17 a chance to bring something back to the group. Sadly talk is cheap and your behaviour betrays your hostile intentions yet again. -- John

02-28-2008, 01:32 PM	#13 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 25, 11:59ï¿½am, HellBwat <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler > demonstrate nlp? > does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and > richard supplied the proof it doesn't. > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ Tim > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related HellBwat, I've seen Richard Bandler fail, firsthand. In business, I've not seen something as effective as NLP "stuff". Take it for what it's worth.

02-28-2008, 01:37 PM	#14 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 25, 4:16ï¿½pm, John <67vnue6o@knwfv> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:12 -0800 (PST), HellBwat > > <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > >Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler > >demonstrate nlp? > >does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and > >richard supplied the proof it doesn't. > > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related > > I wondered how long it would take you to turn up with your predictable > approach. > > Since you are the one shedding crocodile tears about how there are no > real debates on this group - > > "You and I, John, can turn this whole ng around. What do you say > bubba? > How about some interesting and thought provoking material instead of > the constant your a dick, no your a dick theme?" > > - you might have given 17 a chance to bring something back to the > group. > > Sadly talk is cheap and your behaviour betrays your hostile intentions > yet again. > > -- > John ï¿½ How about some deep knowledge? RB & JG in "Structure of Magic I" report about about matching & mirroring. About going somewhere and mirroring a person's movement. Anyone try those exercise's in the book? What did you find out?

02-28-2008, 01:40 PM	#15 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 25, 4:16ï¿½pm, John <67vnue6o@knwfv> wrote: > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:12 -0800 (PST), HellBwat > > <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > >On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > >Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler > >demonstrate nlp? > >does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and > >richard supplied the proof it doesn't. > > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related > > I wondered how long it would take you to turn up with your predictable > approach. > > Since you are the one shedding crocodile tears about how there are no > real debates on this group - > > "You and I, John, can turn this whole ng around. What do you say > bubba? > How about some interesting and thought provoking material instead of > the constant your a dick, no your a dick theme?" > > - you might have given 17 a chance to bring something back to the > group. > > Sadly talk is cheap and your behaviour betrays your hostile intentions > yet again. > > -- > John ï¿½ Talk is cheap Timmy. Do the exercises (did u ever?). A booklearned NLPer u r. That's the bitterness. U don't have any experience with Bandler do U? Sorry. Not our problem...

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03-03-2008, 08:04 AM	#16 (permalink)
17 Guest Posts: n/a	Re: nlp On Feb 28, 7:40Â*am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > On Feb 25, 4:16ï¿½pm, John <67vnue6o@knwfv> wrote: > > > > > > > On Mon, 25 Feb 2008 09:59:12 -0800 (PST), HellBwat > > > <monsterbra...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >On Feb 25, 5:23 am, 17 <bigj...@aol.com> wrote: > > > >Would you like to see the great and powerful richard bandler > > >demonstrate nlp? > > >does nlp really work? I've been claiming for years it doesn't and > > >richard supplied the proof it doesn't. > > > > ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½ ï¿½Tim > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s941m...eature=related > > > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RczTT...eature=related > > > I wondered how long it would take you to turn up with your predictable > > approach. > > > Since you are the one shedding crocodile tears about how there are no > > real debates on this group - > > > "You and I, John, can turn this whole ng around. What do you say > > bubba? > > How about some interesting and thought provoking material instead of > > the constant your a dick, no your a dick theme?" > > > - you might have given 17 a chance to bring something back to the > > group. > > > Sadly talk is cheap and your behaviour betrays your hostile intentions > > yet again. > > > -- > > John ï¿½ > > Talk is cheap Timmy. Do the exercises (did u ever?). A booklearned > NLPer u r. > > That's the bitterness. U don't have any experience with Bandler do U? > > Sorry. Not our problem...- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - Looking around lately I find a lot of information on NLP from the "old guys" you rarely hear from...Steve Andreas and Connie, David Gordon, Chris Hall, Robbie Gordon, Bill O' Hanlon, Charles Faulkner. Check out Gerry Schmidt from NLP Comprehensive. John LaValle's newsletter. Steve Andreas has a newsletter each month. Each read I do with these guys I find new and interesting ideas and techniques I forget we use in these forums. Solid basic fundamentals that move me forward in my thinking while I'm comtiplating my next step where it is I enjoy going to while writing here to unearth my next post that captivativates my imagination, unfolding my next thought, to follow through on. All of them have something I find useful. I hope you do two.