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Old 07-20-2008, 07:14 PM   #1 (permalink)
Krus T. Olfard
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Default Re: who claimed he got feminized to get off?

gordy roy parker, of the fairfax dump parkers, pissed into the wind and
when it splashed back onto his face the patterns in the mud looked like:

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> It's the truth.
>
>


Problem here, gordy roy parker of the fairfax dump parkers, is that you
have proclaimed something to be 'the truth' without providing verifiable
evidence to back up your proclamation.
Since I know (and I do not doubt that others also know) that you are a
liar (remember those grievous and injurious lies you posted about me? I
still have the posts with headers) why on earth would I or anyone else on
usenet believe your unsupported word?

As far as I can see this has to be more lying bullshit from a lying
bullshitter.

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Old 07-20-2008, 10:44 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Default Re: NLP gurus are closeted homos who use hypnosis to seduce str8 bois.....

In article <rJmdndRFgr6f5h7VnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@pghconnect.com >
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote:
>
> It's the truth.
>
> Talk about a PERFECT target:
>
> 1. Sraight males (coveted by gays)
> 2. Having difficulty with women
> 3. Ready to trust other men to "help" him
> 4. Believes in power of hypnosis to help but not to seduce or rape
> 5. Needs to belong
>
> Now a gay NLP guru who is skilled in hypnosis might IGNORE such an easy
> target, but did Jesse James ignore stagecoaches?
>
> This is human nature we're talking about. Then again, the men who ignore
> what I say, and let other men hypnotize them, get what they deserve.
>
> And please, please do NOT stereotype the YMCA Lair.



Some sensation claims, with absolutely no evidence provided to back them up.

Further information can be found in the following links:

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/nar...sorder/DS00652
http://psychologytoday.com/conditions/narcissistic.html
http://allpsych.com/disorders/person...arcissism.html
http://www.minddisorders.com/Kau-Nu/...-disorder.html
http://www.healthyplace.com/communit...ournal_60.html
http://psychcentral.com/disorders/sx36.htm


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Old 07-21-2008, 02:55 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Default Re: NLP gurus are closeted homos who use hypnosis to seduce str8bois.....

On Jul 21, 1:50 pm, "Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\""
<r...@cybersheet.com> wrote:
> It's the truth.
>
> Talk about a PERFECT target:
>
> 1. Sraight males (coveted by gays)
> 2. Having difficulty with women
> 3. Ready to trust other men to "help" him
> 4. Believes in power of hypnosis to help but not to seduce or rape
> 5. Needs to belong


So is this your wet dream now? Are you aching for someone like this to
come to you?

>
> Now a gay NLP guru who is skilled in hypnosis might IGNORE such an easy
> target, but did Jesse James ignore stagecoaches?


The ones without enough to entice him or too much security? Yes, yes
he did.

>
> This is human nature we're talking about. Then again, the men who ignore
> what I say, and let other men hypnotize them, get what they deserve.


As opposed to what they get when they let you hypnotize them? Oh,
that's right, feminization to get off is YOUR deal.

>
> And please, please do NOT stereotype the YMCA Lair.


I have no idea what that is but I'm sure it's more homosexual
fantasies from the gay "guru."

By the way, the use of "str8" and "bois" is very telling. Has someone
been hanging out in the men4boys chat rooms again?
>

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Old 07-21-2008, 03:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Default Re: NLP gurus are closeted homos who use hypnosis to seduce str8 bois.....

In article <rJmdndRFgr6f5h7VnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@pghconnect.com >,
"Ray Gordon, creator of the \"pivot\"" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote:

> It's the truth.


Why is it the truth?

> Talk about a PERFECT target:
>
> 1. Sraight [sic] males (coveted by gays)


Are you sure that is what gay males covet?

Why do you believe this? Do you covet straight males and are projecting
your own beliefs and your own experiences on other gay males?

> 2. Having difficulty with women


I don't follow the reasoning here: are you saying that every man who has
difficulty with women is "gay-bait?"

> 3. Ready to trust other men to "help" him


Like you? From what it sounds here, you're claiming that you, as a
self-proclaimed NLP expert and self-proclaimed "guru," believe that
"converting" to acting according to one stereotype of homosexuals will
increase your ability to seduce women, but only after you've crossed the
line and gone against your genetic predisposition towards attraction to
women.

Didn't you say at one time that pretending to be a tall, rich, gay man
online was the best way to meet and seduce women? Wasn't that in your
1998 book? And didn't you say that a smart man would read and apply
everything that your book asked him to do?

(Those questions were rhetorical, by the way. You did say all those
things, and irrefutable proof can be obtained easily.)

> 4. Believes in power of hypnosis to help but not to seduce or rape


I don't follow your reasoning here: why would someone go to a NLP
seduction guru if they did not believe in the power of hypnotic and NLP
suggestion to seduce?

Of course, the answer is that you didn't say NLP *seduction* gurus, you
just said NLP gurus, so (since you say the specific wording counts) I
must make the assumption you're talking about all the male clinicians at
nlptraining.com and nlpcoaching.com and the Westland Institute, among
many other respected male NLP clinicians ... like Tony Robbins, say.

And so your claim must be that the male organizers and male clinicians
at these workshops actively seek men who have difficulty with women in
order to convert them into homosexuals. And that the female organizers
and clinicians agree with and actively support the male staff's
ambitions and goals.

> 5. Needs to belong


Since humans are "pack"-oriented genetically, everyone feels a need to
have some interaction with other people in general. Even you, Mr.
Parker, have that need, and the evidence is in the sheer amount of
material you post to Usenet. You get the interaction with people that
you genetically need for without having to actually bathe, shave, and go
out and talk to people in person.

> Now a gay NLP guru who is skilled in hypnosis might IGNORE such an easy
> target, but did Jesse James ignore stagecoaches?


This is a very hypothetical situation. Unless you have proof of the
sexual orientation of specific NLP clinicians, in which case you intend
for your post to apply directly to them.

> This is human nature we're talking about.


Precisely. This post is evidence of your human need for interaction with
people. Your need to belong to this group--and be the leader of it--is
very strong indeed. In fact, your need is so strong that if you can't be
the leader of the group, you instead try to take the whole group down.

> Then again, the men who ignore
> what I say, and let other men hypnotize them, get what they deserve.


I'm puzzled. Haven't you been saying for the longest time that
everyone's been stealing and using your ideas? If that's the case, then
they haven't been ignoring what you say, right?

So is the warning here really meant to warn people against being
hypnotized by you? If so, I can't say that I disagree. Anyone who agrees
to be hypnotized by you would get what they deserve.

> And please, please do NOT stereotype the YMCA Lair.


I won't stereotype if you don't homotype. But given that a particular
self-proclaimed NLP expert and "guru" admitted in public to
gender-switching under self-hypnosis AND admitted to pretending to be a
sexy woman online in an attempt to attract men, and given that the same
self-proclaimed NLP expert and "guru" still refuses to admit that he's
gay, it's not a stretch to make a conclusion about who is the "closeted
homo" you're referring to in your subject line.
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Old 07-21-2008, 05:50 PM   #5 (permalink)
Ray Gordon, creator of the \pivot\
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Default NLP gurus are closeted homos who use hypnosis to seduce str8 bois.....

It's the truth.

Talk about a PERFECT target:

1. Sraight males (coveted by gays)
2. Having difficulty with women
3. Ready to trust other men to "help" him
4. Believes in power of hypnosis to help but not to seduce or rape
5. Needs to belong

Now a gay NLP guru who is skilled in hypnosis might IGNORE such an easy
target, but did Jesse James ignore stagecoaches?

This is human nature we're talking about. Then again, the men who ignore
what I say, and let other men hypnotize them, get what they deserve.

And please, please do NOT stereotype the YMCA Lair.


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Old 07-26-2008, 04:09 PM   #6 (permalink)
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"Ray Gordon, creator of the "pivot"" <ray@cybersheet.com> wrote in message
news:rJmdndRFgr6f5h7VnZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@pghconnect.c om...
> It's the truth.
>
> Talk about a PERFECT target:
>
> 1. Sraight males (coveted by gays)
> 2. Having difficulty with women
> 3. Ready to trust other men to "help" him
> 4. Believes in power of hypnosis to help but not to seduce or rape
> 5. Needs to belong
>


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